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My kids have been in Summer camp for almost four weeks now – Friday will be the end of the fourth week. They’re both doing great and enjoying it alot.

My daughter, 9, has adjusted really well. I haven’t noticed too much improvement in her vocabulary or grammar yet. However her confidence in English has improved a lot and she’s using English a lot more with me now. In any case she can usually get her point across and understands almost everything she hears. Hopefully when she starts grade 4 in the fall she will be able to handle everything.

My son, 5, is also doing quite well as well. Before we came to Canada the only thing he could say in English was “hi” though he could understand quite a bit. In the last few weeks he has progress from that to using simple three and four word sentences with poor grammar. He is trying really hard and is now daily surprising me with new things that he says.

He is also struggling some what. He has asked to skip camp twice now because he’s tired and is frustrated because he can’t communicate very well with the camp counsellers or the other kids. The tired part is expected as he is the youngest kid in the camp and the pace is geared for kids 2-4 years older than he is.

Another example of his need to communicate freely is that our neighbor across our backyard fence is an older Korean couple. My son has started to call to them from the fence and talk to them as much as he can. They seem very patient and understanding of him, but obviously we are trying to discourage this as we don’t want our neighbors to be disturbed by our 5 year old nor do we want to become “those” people.

In any case my sons language progression is interesting to watch and it makes me wish I had kept some of my second language acquisition textbooks so that I could refresh my memory on what I had learned.

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Hannah: Thursday Aug 11, 2011  at  05:30 AM Korea (South)

Interesting post. Your son is still so young. He will probably catch up to other kids his age within a few months. It’s amazing how quickly young kids are able to acquire a second language. Your daughter will do great too. I can’t believe she is already fourth grade!

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John Morgan: Thursday Aug 11, 2011  at  06:49 PM Canada

He will learn quickly. I’d agree that within a few months he should be where other kids are. It might be a frustrating time for him.

Questions that may affect how quickly he develops are:

- What language does he use at home? What language does Sun Young use with him? If he uses mostly Korean at home and is frustrated to interact with other kids, that will hinder his progress.

- Does he seek out opportunities to use Korean or avoid English? Having a lot of Koreans and Korean spoken around him will not only make it easier for him to stick with Korean, but he will also seek little reason to learn English until he gets to school and it would be better for him to practice English outside of school as well as in it.

- Where does he primarily learn and practice English now?

The situation you describe with the Korean couple seems to indicate to me that he is looking for reasons to avoid using English and stick with Korean, which is not what you want for his development. Once his English is further along, it would be fine for him to speak Korean (actually good so he can keep his second language). But as his skills are limited, having Koreans around, as mentioned, will hurt his progress.

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Paulie: Tuesday Aug 23, 2011  at  01:20 PM Korea (South)

I went to an all-French kindergarten at age 5 with absolutely no English, continued in French through high school, and now I’m perfectly bilingual. I don’t really remember learning French, but I do remember coming home to my mom in tears because I hated it (since I couldn’t communicate with anyone at first).

In your position, I would worry more about my kids’ state of mind, being positive, and helping them not feel too isolated, as opposed to their English, which will take care of itself over time - they’re young enough. Having your kids around English all the time at school will force your kids to deal with English and not rely on Korean. At home, I would suggest you continue doing as you did in Korea - you & Sunyoung speak English, Sunyoung speaks Korean, and it will all iron itself out.

Pinker says: “In sum, acquisition of a normal language is guaranteed for children up to the age of six, is steadily compromised from then until shortly after puberty, and is rare thereafter.”

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